Episode 4: The Label of Artist


still from “trailer” (Left), still from Episode 4 (right)

Short form: I did a short live video where I am letting my facebook followers know that I am going to do a live video later on the escalator at Millbrae BART station (LEFT). I did a freestyle monologue about the idea of calling myself an “artist” (RIGHT) while destroying this work (BELOW). I went to each audience member and held a flashlight to the piece, let them hold it, and asked them about what they thought of the piece. I spoke some of their words as I ripped it and deposited the shards into a plastic cup filled with water.


“Transparent Edge of Peace”

Feedback freeform

walking through the audience, as if you’re talking to yourself, what does the audience see? meta awareness of levels, inclusion of words, felt included, what is art? humility and questions ~~ the dark and the wider staging, resonated ~~ stool, flashlight, facebook, sense of intimacy– performer or just me– and mystery~~ walking through audience, my heart was touched more, got to see and touch the art, more personal, naming colors, wondering about the video, felt satisfied by the light out, what is beauty, what is work, learning the big themes behind what is art, ~~ ephemeral, nothing is recognizable, a screen world hidden, witnessing you’re someone being an artist, you made something of the process, miniatur-ism creates a sense of theatricality.

Comments on the Facebook Video (Anonymized)

~At first, it was really painful to watch you tearing up your art. Now, I’m kinda into it. I like how you blow open expectations of what art is or isn’t supposed to be.
~Wut in tarnation
~Very cool Video!


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Ep 2 and 3 of #artdestructionart

The Field (workshop/community series) hosted by SAFEhouse Arts – 1 Grove St

The Teaser Test

My first live facebook video. I have tried using live video streaming in the past but I didn’t know about creating personal hotspots on my iphone. I think that helped. I was motivated to do one by my new project #artdestructionart. I was talking a bit about social media in my first episode of this project that I thought it would be more connected (in more ways than one) to try out Facebook’s Live feature. I tested out the liveness by doing a teaser where I said I would be doing another live video later and showed some of my materials (thick sharpie and notecards).


Stills from live facebook vid

The Field and Episode 2

Inspired by the feedback from the last episode, I talked about Seasons of the Artist. I made note cards and ripped up a drawing called “Rainbow practice” made on May 4.

Feedback from The Field workshop goers (in note-took form)

live facebook video
what does Live art mean?
What is Live art

Seasons of the Artist
      rainbow bright colors

sadness about the art torn up
       Thank you for joining me in this


Sense of being Live for two audiences
online Live ness

“Season of the Artist” kept me curious
unique framing of the cycle of creating art
implying a natural process
“Down to Earth”
the artist “vulnerable”
details were overwhelming
the pacing did not leave pause for pondering


“a dollar tree frame encased in glass”
how do we want to keep things
juxtaposition of exquisite and mundane

saying goodbye to facebook brings teh awareness of the second audiencce

more context to the moment of creating the work at the dime of destroying

shift of focus between work audience and audence 2
what might happen?
laughing or sobbing


What did I miss?
As a person who wasn’t here.
When does the performance begin?

Bordered on funny
playfulness vs. serious


gist of it: material is emotional distance
vocal tone was consistent

Facebook / split audience
     crates distance

ripping up low affect
    not reading an effect

sense of conversational
   life and views


Stills from ep 2, #artdestructionart, Seasons of the Artist

For Next Time

As written in my notebook after the performance:

  • write text backward
  • create poetry as an epigraph?
  • create trailer?
  • what content?
  • describe context of creation
  • clear vase to drop “shards” in?
  • connect emotionally?
  • how to draw it out?
  • title “Birth and Death”?
  • get/make lil card holder?
  • create parts with corresponding cards so those tuning in later can tune in
  • merch? sell some tees?
  • have the thing I’m going to destroy next week to show at the end of time?

The Teaser, About to Ride the BART

I thought it was a fun time of being interrupted by the announcer in Oakland. I like these teasers because it’s good I think to warn peeps in advance when a “live art” thing is about to happen.


Stills from Teaser for ep 3

Ep 3, The Ritual

I lit a candle, wore a white shirt. I wrote the title/hashtag backwards so it would read proper on  my frontward facing camera. I also wrote the name of the piece backwards “rising ocho” is what it read because I’m not good at proofreading backwards (original title, “rising echo”) but I went with it.

I  had an audience member hold the piece while I talked about it. I asked for and wrote down words on folded notecards, asking for alternative titles to the piece: bubbles, ripple, undersea, blood cells, stitching, and I also wrote #artdestructionart. Then, I asked for audience participation: circle me and whatever word of the folded notecard is facing you, read that word.

I tore the piece, played to the camera and then burned some “shards” while the others chanted and circled around me and the table.

For Next Time

  • organize table with painter’s tape so that we can have more words at once
  • what do I  have to say about a piece on its deathbed? Celebration? defeat? context of creation?
  • Narrate freeflow style, flow of consciousness?


dizziness from walking around, different vocalizations, loss of creativity, loss of innocence, capitalism/what has value, the creative act of coming up with names before the destruction of the art

layered experimental, burning smell, process of making the piece, artistic impulse, “art destruction art” became more art

the group activity aspect was satisfying, periods of time to stop circling and observe, made me think of Burning Man, center of atom, harmonious sound score, burning, ritual dedication, sacred, purpose, feeding the ethers and the mystery.

I was jealous of the phone. I want to know what you’re saying. You’re making something for others. Art vs Process. Who are these experiences for. Instructional feeling like a cooking show, but felt personal. not here’s the process, but here’s a process. Felt Personal.

having witnessed vs being participant, blurring the lines of audience and participant, feelings of time cycle, season, ritual, facebook and a sense of time.


Stills from Ep 3


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Free Write: Lost and Found

On Sept 8, part of the Dancing with the So Called Dead festival, I went to a workshop put on by ::: curious ::: at CIIS. The freewrites (2) were about 5 minutes each. One was inspired by the word “lost” and one “found.” The facilitators had us underline the phrases that stood out to us as inspirational or interesting and we spoke aloud these phrases at will in a kind of group sharing poetry recital. (separate, lost phrases and found phrases were not mixed).

From my notebook:

LOST a notebook lost in the back of an uber by a Finnish travler, a freelance lefthanded writer who writes about cities the mission district, muralled Clarion Alley. He will fill out his name and address at the front of his notebook in front of the store by the enamel pins and Dwell magazines.

We are at Faye’s coffee where illustrations grace the walls and decorate the free coffee stamp cards that are filled out using the honor system and then put back in a drawer not unlike the dewey decimal card systems of old.

I lost a notebook or a few. Lost or very well placed for premature archival. Will they visit me again?

FOUND I found a dollar on the ground while waiting for Cassidy to fix his bike. I later bought a Peach mate tea with my debit card. I still have the dollar in my coin purse. It wasn’t dirty or anything but it’s just a dollar.

I pay San Francisco rent so finding a dollar is almost like not finding a dollar. I find that humorous.

I find lots of things humorous, like the mirror on the sidewalk that was cracked. I took a photo and put it on instagram and captioned it with a music video and an emoji.


I would go on to instagram the mirror a few more times as it scattered.


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ASMR on the Brain, a podcast appearance

Above some video documentation of ASMR demo for podcast (NO AUDIO on this video) listen to the podcast for the juicy sounds.

I met someone who was talking about their podcast on social media. I contacted him about doing a piece on ASMR and we did it. It was pretty casual and a lot of fun.

Matt and Joshua are joined by ASMaRtist Katarina Countiss to delve into the interesting world of ASMR. Kat demonstrates some of her ASMR techniques and the trio talk about weird sounds, audio recording, live performing (another passion of Kat’s), and Mark Zuckerberg. Things actually go kinda well.Check out Katarina Countiss on YouTubeOr maybe check out her website!

Source: 024 – ASMR On The Brain — MEAT CUTE



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ASMR with Katarina: Process

RAW presents Katarina Countiss, Estefano Romani, Ariel Daly, and Naina Shastri at SAFEhouse Arts the culmination of my 10 week residency with SAFEhouse.

Below in the post is a video of the projection art and audio track that you can enjoy for a headphoned experience wherever you are. Under the heading “An Online Experience.”

The pieces of the performance can be broken up into: the set up of the headphones, the christmas light code, the one on one ASMR session, and the pink ballooons dance.

The Set Up of the Headphones 0-16:08


goal: get everyone to this link and ready to hear the track: SAFEhouse Show Audio Link. I had extra headphones and splitters.

The Christmas Light Code 16:08-26:12


In this piece, I have two battery powered LED christmas light wires, one blue, one green. I put one in a chair and carried one with me. The colors did not matter. I started to set down a line of moonstones. Communicate in non verbal ways different messages about the moonstones being a code for aliens or aerial witnesses or something.

the one on one ASMR session 26:12-33:33


I’m explicit in the gesturing to the chair and audience that I’d like a volunteer. One comes and sits and I show them a variety of props and ask them about their experience with ASMR and curate a use for one or more objects in an improvised ASMR session. This person enjoyed Head Massage to trigger ASMR. I used a comb to stimulate his head, including his upper lip.

The second night, I had a volunteer who did not know about ASMR and I gave a wider but more shallow tour of the box, we applied white glue to the backs of our hands, enjoyed a gentle mist or five from a spray bottle, and listened to some comb sounds.

the pink ballooons dance 33:33-39:23


In this play I ask for 2 audience volunteers. I offer them masks and instruct them simple choreography, ex. touch the balloons together and let’s circle.

The second night I clear the chairs for better space and we wear the costumes (ribbon with plastic pink fringe sewn on) that I designed and helped make.

img_37731Dmitriy gave me his program for safekeeping. I gave him special thanks in the program. Among the other amazing things he’s done to support me and my art, he was the head seamstress in our costuming department consisting of me and him.

Above is the show documentation by Mark McBeth. He captured a unique perspective on the show. I’ve never had a videographer and I thought it would be rude to give him directions on how I envision the show being captured. In the future, I would be more assertive and have a dialog to create something that is more reflective of the experience. It was odd to me that he not sit in the audience section.

This was the first night of the show, my first solo show! It was a challenge for many reasons. I was working on props and projection art that very day. Also, I didn’t do a proper tech check and there was a projector to computer connection issue, so I had to scrap the projection art. I adjusted my expectations and it was a different show than I intended but those who attended appreciated what I did.

Creating a headphoned theatre experience is something I’ve been thinking about ever since I got involved with ASMRtistry. The audience needed to be equipped with headphones, a smartphone to access my track and to play it all at the same time. Embedding a soundcloud track was not the best move. It prompted the user to download the app, so essentially my piece involved account creation, which we all know to be an intimidating process. Another login-password to store in our brains, you know?

After setting up the audience with headphones and having the track ready, and telling a few jokes to keep the air jovial, I began the piece. There are three distinct sections. Earlier that day, I worked with the tech peeps Nicole and Colin on my lighting design. It was so much fun being the director and having to make these choices. Initially the lighting cues were on me– second look when the chairs move to stage left– but I realized the stagework I’d be doing was going to be so fluid, I wouldn’t know when to end. Instead of me cueing the lights, the lights cued me. At 10 min and 18 min marks it goes from one lighting situation to another.

Reflections of a Second Night

I had two shows two nights in a row, the second night had projection art. Before the show, I went around to each group getting settled, telling them about the show’s technical requirements of the app and headphones. I was equipped with extra headphones and splitters. I felt I was friendly and it was a small enough crowd that visiting each audience member felt intimate and sweet.

I had different masks for the third movement, different audience volunteers for the second and third movements. Different choreography for the first and third pieces. Different responses to the audience member in the second movement. All and all, the style I approached the performance making led to a show with a lot of variability.

I definitely wish I took photographs the second night. The costumes were transformative.

An Online Experience

Below is the video to the audio and the projection art. View it with a friend and appreciate the social aspect of the volume check, everything else is pretty much a solo experience, though have some cookies and water handy!



I wanted to show how my process in creating material for my ASMR channel on youtube through personas. I wanted to capture aspects of the shaman, scientist, professor, artist, and animal. I used certain characteristics to create a variety of aesthetic choices and influences.

The week before the show, I was still developing the way the performance would go. I went to a beach, a cafe, and market street. I did free writes on the monday before the show to create the text and recorded it in my apartment. It felt like a flower that blossomed in a short period of time.

I’m looking forward to creating a new ASMR-based show for the group presentation in January! ❄

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Fieldwork Day 1: #artdestructionart

The Field (workshop/community series) hosted by SAFEhouse Arts – 1 Grove St

I didn’t know what to expect from my first day at the Field, other than to perform a piece I conceived of a couple days prior. Like the first meeting of minds, a handout was handed out of how the Field was to be a place for performance and witnessing. The feedback is to be structured in such a way that the creator retains autonomy over their piece. The feedback givers are to avoid shallow comments like “I liked…” or “I thought was interesting…”

There were five of us performing about 5-7 minutes of material each, ranging from movement, spoken word, dance. We all had elements of improv within our pieces. The performing was back to back with some minutes of interval to write down our notes for the feedback session which was done in a circle. The feedback sessions were timed. 10 minutes per person and it was encouraged to just say your emotional response, what you perceived the intent to be, what you saw and not give suggestions, which I thought was good practice. I tend to want to get in on a piece and become involved in the creative process. I thought it was a good time just to articulate details of my response and where my mind went during the performance.


I recently posted a link to my art inventory for visual pieces inviting my facebook friends to perhaps consult me about a purchase. No one has taken me up on it. It lead to this sense of “what a waste” no one wants these things, so I conceived of a social media linked project where I destroy the art. The first episode involved this piece.


rip (lol)

The stage: I had the raffle table and a stool holding my book bag with 3 framed pieces. I put my water bottle and cell phone on the table and started recording a video (below).

The action: I monologue about how digital and physical artworks are appreciated (or not) in my recent experience and I describe a piece that I created while I take it out of its frame and tear the watercolor paper into pieces.

Note about the video: After listening to this recording, lots of “ums”. Quiet recording but then at 1:26, loud dang noise– I was startled– yeah. And another loud sound (1:55) of plastic on heavy metal table and the cellphone being right there on that same table.

Feedback: They saw it was a sad piece about wanting connection. They felt the steady pace of words and the organic rhythm of ripping paper. They understood the tenderness of destroying art. They saw the bag on stage on the stool and wondered what could be inside it. The anythingness of what could be was felt to be intriguing. They appreciated the cellphone on the table because of its representing social media. I don’t think they noticed that I was documenting the piece with it.

Next time: I want to try doing it as a live facebook video. I haven’t done that and it seems really appealing. The group said that it would be advised to practice and to set up a personal hotspot. The internet at SAFEhouse is good, but not that good.


Continuing the Conversation

feedback from friends through social media

~I felt you were claiming your right to your process, to let go, to move forward–i especially felt that at the end when you mentioned deleting images off a camera or computer.

~Whoa, that was pretty intense! It made me think about a lot of different things First, that in this day and age of social media, one’s self worth seems tied to the number of likes or comments or whatever, which is a toxic concept for a lot of artists.

Next, the process of marketing one’s art is weird and uncomfortable, can be discouraging, and the whole art market is pretty fucked up in general. However, there is a reason that there is so much theatricality in performing the presentation of an exhibition of art.

A gallery separates the making of art from the marketing of art so the artist doesn’t have to Have you ever heard of an artist named Nobu Fukui? He’s a “successful” and “established” artist in his 70’s, who has recently taken to destroying his unsold paintings in a performative capacity


( Nobu Fukui destroying work )


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Virtual Garage Sale 2016

Welcome to the Virtual Garage Sale 2016. I’ve never done this before but I thought it was about time to spread these works to the wanting masses. Let me know if you want a piece and we can talk about price, shipping, etc. Let me know if you’re curious about a piece and we can talk about inspiration, materials, dimensions, etc. ✧






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